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Post by dysmetria on Jan 30, 2011 23:23:39 GMT -5
Alright, thanks. I wanted to start subscribing through game cards instead of recurring payments, and I just wanted to make sure I know what'll happen if I go back to silver. Oh, and I had one last question. I can play silver characters on a gold account, right? I don't have to convert them, do I? Unfortunately, you do. You dont have to change anything about them, but you do have to convert them to gold since you now have a gold account. The reason is because silver and gold are two different account types and you cannot have both a silver and gold account at the same time as far as playable characters are concerned. You do not have to convert silver characters to gold if you decide to go gold. In fact, many current subscribers are leveling silver archtype characters as they feel that will be a more popular (and more balanced) PvP bracket from now on. I'm not sure if this will help but I'll post my experience as a former Gold player gone Silver. I used to play CO while I was waiting for STO to come out. After it did, I dropped my CO sub. Now that it's F2P I went back to play once again. When I first played I had a total of 6 characters. Upon logging back in, all 6 of them were considered Gold characters. Naturally, I could not play any of them. I did have the option to convert them, but I did not have an option to create a new Silver character. Eventually what I did is delete 4 of the old ones that I no longer wanted to play and a new option to create a Silver character appeared. So right now I have a total of 3 characters. 2 Gold (which I cannot play) and 1 Silver, which I am playing right now. I also no longer have the option to create new characters. So it seems that unless I convert my Gold characters, delete my Gold characters, or resub, I'm stuck with only 1 Silver slot. In addition, I believe that you can convert a character only once. That's my main reason that I don't want to convert my Gold characters. Someday if I ever have the funds to resub I'd like to have them ready to play again in free-form rather than archetype. Actually the way it is supposed to work is that former players can retain up to 6 of their old gold characters (in case they ever resubscribe,) and still be able to create two new silver characters on that account while silver. (This does not count extra earned or purchased slots.) However there has been a bug since launch that has been counting those gold characters as being silver so if you have even 1 of the 8, you can only make 1 more. It should be fixed soon.
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Post by Lantesh on Jan 30, 2011 23:26:27 GMT -5
Oh I forgot about that. I'll keep that in mind if I can scrape up some cash later on. Also I just read on the main CO forums this post here in regards to this thread that you had posted there: forums.champions-online.com/showpost.php?p=1770194&postcount=2I can't respond to him so I'll do so here. If what he says is true, then maybe my account is bugged. I had to delete several of my Gold characters in order to be able to create my 1 Silver character. I just logged in and checked again, but I still can't create any more Silver characters. So I think something is wrong and that my Gold characters are counting against my Silvers. I only have 2 Gold and 1 Silver and cannot make a second one. So I'm thinking it's a bug.
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Post by Lantesh on Jan 30, 2011 23:28:59 GMT -5
Actually the way it is supposed to work is that former players can retain up to 6 of their old gold characters (in case they ever resubscribe,) and still be able to create two new silver characters on that account while silver. (This does not count extra earned or purchased slots.) However there has been a bug since launch that has been counting those gold characters as being silver so if you have even 1 of the 8, you can only make 1 more. It should be fixed soon. Ah well that explains it. Thanks, hope it does get fixed soon. Luckily all the characters I deleted were the ones I had no intention of playing again anyways. ^^
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Post by Admin on Jan 30, 2011 23:34:17 GMT -5
You do not have to convert silver characters to gold if you decide to go gold. In fact, many current subscribers are leveling silver archtype characters as they feel that will be a more popular (and more balanced) PvP bracket from now on. When I upgraded my account to gold, my silver characters were not playable until converted to gold. They were still archetypes though, and I think the people you are referring to are leveling archetypes on a gold account or either on a separate silver account.
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Post by dysmetria on Jan 30, 2011 23:40:52 GMT -5
When I upgraded my account to gold, my silver characters were not playable until converted to gold. They were still archetypes though, and I think the people you are referring to are leveling archetypes on a gold account or either on a separate silver account. I'm confused, you say you had to convert them to gold, but they were still archtypes which by default makes them silver. Gold characters do not have to conform to any silver character archtypes, and have three extra powers compared to those silver characters.
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Post by Admin on Jan 30, 2011 23:44:56 GMT -5
When I upgraded my account to gold, my silver characters were not playable until converted to gold. They were still archetypes though, and I think the people you are referring to are leveling archetypes on a gold account or either on a separate silver account. I'm confused, you say you had to convert them to gold, but they were still archtypes which by default makes them silver. Gold characters do not have to conform to any silver character archtypes, and have three extra powers compared to those silver characters. That is incorrect. You can still create archetypes on a gold account. The difference is you ALSO have the option to make a free form character. But gold members can create the same archetypes that silver players can if they want. However, any character that you play on a gold account is considered gold, whether archetype or free form.
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Post by dysmetria on Jan 30, 2011 23:58:50 GMT -5
I'm confused, you say you had to convert them to gold, but they were still archtypes which by default makes them silver. Gold characters do not have to conform to any silver character archtypes, and have three extra powers compared to those silver characters. That is incorrect. You can still create archetypes on a gold account. The difference is you ALSO have the option to make a free form character. But gold members can create the same archetypes that silver players can if they want. You seem to have misunderstood. Is English not your first language? You said When I upgraded my account to gold, my silver characters were not playable until converted to gold. They were still archetypes though and that is where I am confused. If they are still silver archtypes then they are not gold characters, do not have the extra three powers gold characters do, or the extra 2 talent points while leveling gold characters get, or the ability to choose powers from outside the archtype framework like the gold characters can, and would not be able to participate in archtype PvP like gold characters are unable to. Perhaps it is just a misuse of the term, but everywhere I have seen it used on the official forums and here, "gold character" has referred to the freeform characters with the extra powers and "silver characters" has referred to the 10 ATs silvers can choose, regardless of the current status of the account they are on.
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Post by Admin on Jan 31, 2011 0:03:31 GMT -5
That is incorrect. You can still create archetypes on a gold account. The difference is you ALSO have the option to make a free form character. But gold members can create the same archetypes that silver players can if they want. You seem to have misunderstood. Is English not your first language? You said When I upgraded my account to gold, my silver characters were not playable until converted to gold. They were still archetypes though and that is where I am confused. If they are still silver archtypes then they are not gold characters, do not have the extra three powers gold characters do, or the extra 2 talent points while leveling gold characters get, or the ability to choose powers from outside the archtype framework like the gold characters can, and would not be able to participate in archtype PvP like gold characters are unable to. Perhaps it is just a misuse of the term, but everywhere I have seen it used on the official forums and here, "gold character" has referred to the freeform characters with the extra powers and "silver characters" has referred to the 10 ATs silvers can choose, regardless of the current status of the account they are on. Sorry for any confusion, but here is what happened: 1) I created a free account and made a character. 2) I upgraded my account to gold. 3) When I logged in, the character that I had already created prior to upgrading my account was no longer playable. To be able to play him, I had to convert him to gold. 4) Although that character was now gold, he was still an archetype just like he was before I converted him. Technically speaking, silver and gold are terms that refer to the account, not the character. Archetype and free-form are the character terms. You can create an archetype character on both a silver and gold account.
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Post by dysmetria on Jan 31, 2011 0:09:44 GMT -5
You seem to have misunderstood. Is English not your first language? You said and that is where I am confused. If they are still silver archtypes then they are not gold characters, do not have the extra three powers gold characters do, or the extra 2 talent points while leveling gold characters get, or the ability to choose powers from outside the archtype framework like the gold characters can, and would not be able to participate in archtype PvP like gold characters are unable to. Perhaps it is just a misuse of the term, but everywhere I have seen it used on the official forums and here, "gold character" has referred to the freeform characters with the extra powers and "silver characters" has referred to the 10 ATs silvers can choose, regardless of the current status of the account they are on. Sorry for any confusion, but here is what happened: 1) I created a free account and made a character. 2) I upgraded my account to gold. 3) When I logged in, the character that I had already created prior to upgrading my account was no longer playable. To be able to play him, I had to convert him to gold. 4) Although that character was now gold, he was still an archetype just like he was before I converted him. Whether a character is an archetype or not really has nothing to do with whether they are silver or gold, since you can create the same archetypes on a gold account that you can on a silver account. The only difference is you can also create a free form character on a gold account. Well that is quite the opposite of how the term has been used in the official forums for the last couple months and here since these forums began. It is going to be far more common for an account to go from gold to silver or from silver to gold than a character, so it certainly makes more sense to identify characters as gold (freeform) archtypes or silver (one of the currently 10 limited) archtypes. Did you even have an option to convert your silver characters into gold freeform characters and get them their extra powers/powers from different power sets/extra talent points? Or did you have to start new characters for that?
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Post by Admin on Jan 31, 2011 0:24:32 GMT -5
Did you even have an option to convert your silver characters into gold freeform characters and get them their extra powers/powers from different power sets/extra talent points? Or did you have to start new characters for that? Yes, you do. When you convert a character from a silver account to gold you have 3 options: 1) same archetype 2) change archetype 3) free form I assume that the 3rd option will grant you all the perks of a normal free form character.
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