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Post by thumpe on Jan 29, 2011 22:25:25 GMT -5
Beside the extra 3 powers you can have, and the ability to select which powers u can have from the list.
The archtypes' powerset isn't gimp.
How much dominance will gold have over Silver in pvp and pve?
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Post by Admin on Jan 29, 2011 23:40:48 GMT -5
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Post by ashen on Jan 29, 2011 23:47:44 GMT -5
Beside the extra 3 powers you can have, and the ability to select which powers u can have from the list. The archtypes' powerset isn't gimp. How much dominance will gold have over Silver in pvp and pve? There will be seperate arenas for gold and silver PvP. A Silver can choose to join unrestricted PvP, but a Gold cannot enter AT only PvP with a free-form character. An often stated expectation in the PvP community is that many Gold players will be creating AT characters to be able to participate in AT only PvP. I should point out that the difference between freeform and AT characters is often not really felt until higher levels. As to PvE, it relaly depends on how much min/maxing goes into the free-form character. My free form dual blade character is at least as tough as the tank AT's and has damage output at least as good as the DPS AT's. I dont play him in PvE much (other than certain farming spots) because most of the content of the game is boring for him. He is great in PvP though.
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Post by Nightmare on Feb 4, 2011 15:49:22 GMT -5
Thanks for the info Admin. I was wondering about this as well. Haven't kept up with CO since I stopped playing in Beta. As a long time PnP fan, it just didn't do it for me. But that is for another thread
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Post by demirian on Feb 7, 2011 14:47:58 GMT -5
Damnt ..
I already think Free-To-Play in this game like BIG TRIAL VERSION really ...
Coz i have friend yestoday he get GOLD and when he show'd me hes power i said " omg , wtf , how you so fast killing those foe's , omg you are already 21 lvl for 1 day "
I really , really sad , coz , when i saw how he can choose any powers he want and ect , i said to myself i will not play this game with Silver acc)))
But i dont wanna pay coz this game not so good for pay ( i have money) but i cant pay for this game ...
So this my opinnion about differents Gold and Silver .
Gold - Enjoy , have fun , be God) Silver - Look , think and pay , and be GOLD )))
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Post by Nuzgart on Feb 7, 2011 15:52:38 GMT -5
As many have pointed out before, The Glacier is not much different from what one'd make a tank based in keeping the mobs outta the team, Behemoth has helluva resistance against supervillain and up bosses, Inferno gets all the good AoE attacks from the fire framework, so it's a VERY good AoE DPS...
I could go on and on, but it all (gladly) seems to come down to this: ATs are not gimped- they're simply specialized. True, any min/maxed (is that how they're called?) freeform can Tank, DPS and heal efficiently at the same time, making them able to take on the world alone...
Of course they need to have such an advantage: they're paying for it, anyways. Good thing is, Freeform doesn't tank any better than an AT tank, doesn't DPS much better than an Inferno, and so on. As such, a well balanced, well played AT team can do the same content (I suppose, haven't gone that far) as any free-form team, because when it comes to it, both teams' "holy trinity" will be ecqually maintained.
Gold - "I can take on the world!", "Hey, let's team up... Let's see... What role do I want to play today?" Silver - Not any different from class-based games; better team up: you're supposed to!
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Post by p on Feb 7, 2011 17:42:15 GMT -5
I've PVP'd a bit and found no problem in the 20 and under unrestricted pvp's, high kill count low death...soon as I hit 21 and was fighting at lvl 30 unrestricted (since the AT queues don't pop much at all if at all at that level when I'm on) I've been pretty much useless with extremely low kill count and very high death count. So honestly not convinced with the "not much difference" vibe.
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Post by ashen on Feb 8, 2011 1:47:53 GMT -5
I've PVP'd a bit and found no problem in the 20 and under unrestricted pvp's, high kill count low death...soon as I hit 21 and was fighting at lvl 30 unrestricted (since the AT queues don't pop much at all if at all at that level when I'm on) I've been pretty much useless with extremely low kill count and very high death count. So honestly not convinced with the "not much difference" vibe. Yes, once you get into tier 3-4 freeform builds will pull away from AT's in performance. The radical difference in power level is difficult to explain fully. You would have to see the difference in numbers to believe them.
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Post by KenpoJuJitsu3 on Feb 8, 2011 8:01:34 GMT -5
This is a clear, and easy to follow, example of what freeforms are capable of but no AT I've seen yet can even come close to in terms of power/effectiveness. www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZLzmsnc1G8
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Post by falchoin on Feb 8, 2011 8:07:27 GMT -5
This is a clear, and easy to follow, example of what freeforms are capable of but no AT I've seen yet can even come close to in terms of power/effectiveness. www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZLzmsnc1G8Heh, I wonder how much longer Protection Field will continue to benefit from flat damage absorb
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Post by KenpoJuJitsu3 on Feb 8, 2011 8:12:52 GMT -5
This is a clear, and easy to follow, example of what freeforms are capable of but no AT I've seen yet can even come close to in terms of power/effectiveness. www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZLzmsnc1G8Heh, I wonder how much longer Protection Field will continue to benefit from flat damage absorb Me too This character isn't using the actual PF though, never has. That's the end builder advantage procing. Shoot, I just realized I messed that vid up. I was supposed to use every power at least once to show someone but I didn't use containment field or force blast.
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Post by thumpe on Feb 8, 2011 22:00:19 GMT -5
I tried it with my lvl 28 behemoth and get pwn lol. But I can do it each group 1 by 1 instead of all 3 groups at once. But it seems like they add more mobs than your video.
I did the same thing, hard, group 5 solo, purple gang.
I think the extra active defensive power that gold members can have is the key here. You can have 2 active defense powers to alternate during cool downs and 1 heal, then you're golden.
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Post by KenpoJuJitsu3 on Feb 9, 2011 8:07:11 GMT -5
I tried it with my lvl 28 behemoth and get pwn lol. But I can do it each group 1 by 1 instead of all 3 groups at once. But it seems like they add more mobs than your video. I did the same thing, hard, group 5 solo, purple gang. I think the extra active defensive power that gold members can have is the key here. You can have 2 active defense powers to alternate during cool downs and 1 heal, then you're golden. If they ever release an archetype that has the passive defense "Lightning Reflexes" and the heal "Bountiful Chi Resurgence" you'll see that AT take the whole room, solo, 5-man, hard difficulty at once without even needing 1 active defense.
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Post by falchoin on Feb 9, 2011 8:43:56 GMT -5
More freeform goodness! Keep in mind that the character shown is an INT/PRE super statted support character. Also shown fighting DEMON instead of Purple Gang since I think they're the hardest to fight in the MC battle station. Chest beams flying everywhere! www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgiHUq7LRlc
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Post by KenpoJuJitsu3 on Feb 10, 2011 13:08:29 GMT -5
More freeform goodness! Keep in mind that the character shown is an INT/PRE super statted support character. Also shown fighting DEMON instead of Purple Gang since I think they're the hardest to fight in the MC battle station. Chest beams flying everywhere! www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgiHUq7LRlcI just had to say it again upon rewatching this. That is absurd in a good way.
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