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Post by randomstats on Jun 16, 2013 13:52:47 GMT -5
Hello. I played Champions tabletop for years, but moved away from that location a while back. I will be starting a silver account. What base archetype is most helpful?
I am leaning towards Behemoth, Radiant, or Inferno mostly.
Before I start though, is there an advantage to using a hybrid form such as Grimoire or Glacier?
Thanks
(I have played a variety of tabletop GM games and several MMOs as well.)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2013 14:52:18 GMT -5
Hybrid ATs are capable-multi-function types whereas Ranged, Melee, Tank and Support are more specialized.
Grimoires and Radiants are both attack at range and both have healing abilities. The key difference between the two are their capabilities and the roles they're intended to fill. Radiants have innately superior healing capabilities and dabble in crowd control at the cost of some damage output. Grimoires can deal decent damage and are capable of healing, but they don't put out the damage an Inferno can or heal as well as a Radiant. Jack of all trades, master of none.
I can't really answer the question of which base AT is most helpful as it's all dependent on your preferred style of play.
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Post by randomstats on Jun 16, 2013 16:27:55 GMT -5
Sorry that I was not more clear.
I was wondering if there was a global shortage of a certain type of character. However, I read on the forums here that each account could have more that one character slot. How many character slots are there on a silver account?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2013 17:03:14 GMT -5
Silver accounts start with two character slots.
To my knowledge there isn't a shortage of anything except patient and open-minded players.
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Post by SatoruMasamune on Jun 16, 2013 17:22:30 GMT -5
For your first character, I'd recommend Glacier. It's hands-down THE most survivable Archetype, free or premium, and as a brand new player, you'll be learning as you go, so survivability is VERY important to keep you from getting frustrated. When playing solo, a properly set-up Glacier is almost impossible to kill, but it will take you a little bit longer to kill mobs until you get get Avalanche. Glacier can also do some respectable damage against bosses if you pick the rick Advantages for your powers, and it's THE tanking Archetype of choice, which means you'll always be desirable in Alerts. Read this topic to get an idea for the Glacier and see if it's something you'd want to try out: champions-online.proboards.com/thread/73
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Post by not1stepbackwards on Jun 17, 2013 1:56:33 GMT -5
Hi, welcome, I'm excited a Champions PnP is joining as you bring that lore with us.
Regarding "which AT is most helpful", I'm leaning a bit (not a lot) towards the Radiant.
The Radiant is the only AT that can revive fallen friends (at level 35). Useful!
And as in many MMOs, people want to be Damage Dealers rather than Healers.
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That said, like Towershield mentioned, it's not like it's a real shortage.
Because unlike many MMOs, a CO party does NOT need every role (i.e. Healer) filled.
Just a minor thing, the Glacier is not a Hybrid, it's a Tank, IMHO better than Behemoth.
I agree with Satoru it's the best to learn with. Glacier is the normal recommendation.
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Post by Meegatron on Jun 17, 2013 2:34:49 GMT -5
Glacier, Savage and Void are most survivable of AT's. Glacier on the merit of being ranged tank with fair damage resistance and it's a free AT. Savage and Void because of self-heals, but those are paid AT's. I'd start with Glacier before spending money on anything.
Inferno has remarkable dps output but it's the most squishy of all archetypes. It has also no panic buttons like Soldier's smoke grenade or Marksman's evasive maneuvers, so it has learning curve.
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Post by Zed Brightlander on Jun 22, 2013 12:38:35 GMT -5
First, Welcome! 2nd, you're doing the right thing by asking questions. IMHO - There are no bad Arches, just Arches that one person might enjoy over another person. In case you have not found it on your own, check out this thread. champions-online.proboards.com/thread/362/all-silver-guides-thread All of these builds were put together but our top men. (and women). My personal recommendation is, try them all, starting with the arches that sound like they would be most fun for you to be as a hero. If you are not enjoying your hero by level 17 thru 20 than try another. Every arch can be played, it is merely a question of play style. Many swear by the Soldier and/or the Inferno, but I have yet to find them appealing (but I do keep experimenting). I DO enjoy the Glacier and also the Tempest {a Special} the most, but I know that others find them boring or unplayable. Again try them and keep ask the experts questions. Some arches take longer than other before it crosses the threshold of viability/heroic fun. btw - My favorite part about being a Behemoth is picking the largest and heaviest objects (cars/trucks) and tossing them at bad guys. Great fun!
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Post by higirls on Jul 15, 2013 10:37:00 GMT -5
Hello there and welcome to CO! The Grimoire has useful sigils, good energy managements, access to heals, great teamplay value and pretty good dps once you get Skarn's Bane (probably the highest AoE damage for a non-DPS archetype). If you are looking for a good free archetype you may want to give it a try I never really liked the Radiant: it's built to heal AND do damage, but unfortunately its attack powers are somewhat subpar IMO. Its only saving grace is the ability to rez, which is useful for endgame content. Glacier has a very strong defense as well as powerful attacks. It lacks heals, but can tank very well if the healers know what they're doing. If you like tanking it's a great choice. I also really like the Savage, a self healing hybrid AT that plays kinda like a single target DPS who doesn't need to be bailed out; however, it is not free and not really suited to tanking. On a side note: if you do pick a Glacier, make sure to get the hard frost advantage on ice blast, it's amazing!
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Post by SatoruMasamune on Jul 15, 2013 17:09:59 GMT -5
On a side note: if you do pick a Glacier, make sure to get the hard frost advantage on ice blast, it's amazing! This is absolutely true. Ice Blast is the Glacier's go-to damage power, even once you get Avalanche at level 40. Hard Frost gives Ice Blast some hefty bonus damage to any enemies affected by the Chill debuff, which all of the Glacier's AoE powers have a decent chance to apply. In fact, a popular tactic is to choose Frost Breath at level 11 and spend 2 Advantage points on it for the Frost Bite bonus, which makes Frost Breath ALWAYS apply Chill to ALL enemies it hits. Once your enemy is Chilled, you can keep tapping Ice Blast w/Hard Frost to deal a very respectable amount of damage to a single enemy very quickly, instead of having to charge a regular Ice Blast all the way for less damage. This allows a Glacier specced for soloing to still be very useful in Alerts and regular teaming, despite not investing any Advantage points in Crippling Challenge or Challenging Strikes.
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