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Post by heiki on Jul 27, 2011 10:49:19 GMT -5
Build by championBuilder 0.4.1Download this Build here.Yunfa: Level 40 ChampionSuperstats:Level 6: Super PresenceLevel 13: Super EndurancePowers:Level 1: Psi LashLevel 1: Ego Blast -- Crippling ChallengeLevel 6: Ego SpritesLevel 6: TeleportLevel 8: Empathic Healing -- Rank 2, Rank 3Level 11: Ebon Void -- Rank 2Level 14: Aura Of Primal Majesty -- Rank 2, Rank 3Level 17: Lifedrain -- Rank 2, Rank 3Level 20: Telepathic ReverberationLevel 23: Ego Storm -- Rank 2, Malevolent ManifestationLevel 26: Collective Will -- Rank 2, Consume WillLevel 29: Ebon Rift -- Vengeful ShadowsLevel 32: Inertial Dampening FieldLevel 35: Dark Transfusion -- Blood SacrificeLevel 35: Acrobatics -- VersatilityLevel 38: Ebon Ruin -- Rank 2, Nyctophobia, Paranormal ParanoiaTalents:Level 1: Mind Over MatterLevel 6: Boundless ReservesLevel 9: Shrug It OffLevel 12: ProdigyLevel 15: Lasting ImpressionLevel 18: Amazing StaminaLevel 21: IntimidatingI'm actually thinking real hard of going gold and the reason would be to build this kind of healer/dps hybrid. I'm afraid it's not going to be survivable enough though even in Guardian role. AoPM is swapable for Seraphim (actually I think Seraphim would be best) and IDF is there for survivability but honestly i've never used it so no idea if the energy loss-to-defense ratio is nice enough. If IDF turns out to be a bad option i would take resurrection serum for more utility. Regarding non controllable pets, I chose Collective Will but could take the Darkness one as well, no idea which one is the most appropriate here. If you have already rolled something similar or if you have any insight whatsoever, it would be greatly appreciated ! Thanks
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Post by lunar on Jul 27, 2011 10:59:23 GMT -5
If you plan on running sentinell/guardian, don't take end tbh, you are probaly better of using con or dex and run in sentinell which will net your better results in the long run.
With this new patch, ego or dex are even better alternatives than before:)
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Post by heiki on Jul 28, 2011 5:40:36 GMT -5
Went with Pre and Ego like you advised and for now staying in guardian; energy is not really an issue right now (although i can't spam) as Ego leech works quite well + aopm and blocking helps a lot. Reworked a lot of the powers though, took telekinetic assault which is quite nice when it crits and took Telekinetic wave as well which is hilarious with the ego changes. The build is focused toward dps/control and some healing in pvp (i know i'll get creamed by Dragon' wrath spammers but I despise that kind of character building anyway) I'm still having some doubts about some powers though: - Is Ebon rift really that useful ? My plan was to combo vengeful shadows with Ego storm but no idea how that works in practice; - I'm having trouble filling up abilities to get to the goodies like ego storm, ebon ruin etc so thinking about getting either ego sprites or void horror (pet from darkness) any idea which would be more suitable ? - I scraped lifedrain and dark transfusion so looking at the new Ego surge atm or go more defensive and grab Protection Field for more survivability - Thinking of getting Telekinetic Lance as my long range nuke but that means ebon ruin serves as nothing more than a heal debuff and a damage resistance debuff All comments are of course welcomed Thanks for responding !
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Post by lunar on Jul 28, 2011 5:52:27 GMT -5
Went with Pre and Ego like you advised and for now staying in guardian; energy is not really an issue right now (although i can't spam) as Ego leech works quite well + aopm and blocking helps a lot. Reworked a lot of the powers though, took telekinetic assault which is quite nice when it crits and took Telekinetic wave as well which is hilarious with the ego changes. The build is focused toward dps/control and some healing in pvp (i know i'll get creamed by Dragon' wrath spammers but I despise that kind of character building anyway) I'm still having some doubts about some powers though: - Is Ebon rift really that useful ? My plan was to combo vengeful shadows with Ego storm but no idea how that works in practice; - I'm having trouble filling up abilities to get to the goodies like ego storm, ebon ruin etc so thinking about getting either ego sprites or void horror (pet from darkness) any idea which would be more suitable ? - I scraped lifedrain and dark transfusion so looking at the new Ego surge atm or go more defensive and grab Protection Field for more survivability - Thinking of getting Telekinetic Lance as my long range nuke but that means ebon ruin serves as nothing more than a heal debuff and a damage resistance debuff All comments are of course welcomed Thanks for responding ! Okay i'm just gonna sum stuff up. Dex is a bit better than ego, except for vengefull shadow, crit sev means nothing, if you don't crit, so try to stat both at least. Rift with high ego (hence why my main ff is a megh now with str as third stat:/) and vengefull shadows is insane, best pvp power ingame. Unless invul+dodge, dragonwrathers are easy with a Rift using telepath, check hitagi's spec, she counters dragonwrath pretty much. (+lunar does as well, just harder (pure telepath) Okay now the tricky part, either get enrage, and stat strenght+con (for info, check primal rage builds). Or ditch AOPM and get shadowform (and ego iirc), you gimp yourself dps wise now:) Enrage is the better option, since you can run it in sentinell Ditch transfusion idd, PF, or for theme reasons, MR, are better. rest is your choice.
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Post by heiki on Jul 29, 2011 0:49:16 GMT -5
Actually, with the changes to ego and AoPM, i'm standing at 25ish % chance to crit right now without any gearing for dex. I'll probably grab the new TK toggle which will give me +20% ego damage and +10% chance to crit as long as i can maintain 5 stacks of ego leech. Crit severity is at 95% atm (lvl 17).
I see the point of enrage but i'm quite reluctant to change my superstats as Pre i think is really necessary for a pvp healer and ego really helps me get meleers off my back with TK wave.
Also, since most of my defense comes from holds, knockbacks and shields, I'd thought that AoPM would give me the HP to survive the stun that comes from the lunge to give me time to bubble up, knock/hold/root (TK wave adv.) and heal back up.
I think i'll definitely grab rift based on your opinion, just found it had a long cooldown on my void. I know that without any energy form i'll be pretty low in damage but that's where i hope crits will come in.
To sum things up, as of now (lvl 17) I have TK assault which is my CC carrier, fair damage and a nice way to maintain stacks of ego leech; TK wave which is my nttg carrier + knockback/root getoffmyface button and Ego sprites which are hilarious when they crit for 100 a pop (they crit for the whole duration).
Future powers to grab will be Mental Disciple (damage/crit toggle), possibly TK Lance, Ego storm, MR, Ebon Rift, Collective Will and a Rez or an active defense, possibly enrage if i feel my str and con are reaching nice values.
I know it's not really optimized but i'm really enjoying my concept so far (so much better with ego sprites).
Thanks a lot for all the ideas though it's really been helpful in defining my build.
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Post by lunar on Jul 29, 2011 4:47:38 GMT -5
Not gonna meddle to much anymore since you have a clear view from what you want:)
25% crit? I didn't realise this absurd value's, it really has been overbuffed, i'll take it back then:)
Enrage doesn't need con or str as superstats persee, but it does help, you can always ditch idf for an enrage refresher:) (idf really is overrated in pvp on non tanks:) )
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Post by heiki on Jul 29, 2011 8:55:16 GMT -5
Yeah you're right when I think about it you'd need some defense already to make IDF soak up the remaining damage...I won't have the HP to make it worthwhile anyway. New changes: I'm running sentinel all the time now, except when i'm solo on easy content (i prefer sentinel for elite) because of how *censored*ty targeting is in this game and the fact that you can't have a defensive target... So yea i'm even more reliant on keeping people at bay for survivability. Doing ok in pvp, i am more satisfied with this build versatility compared to my mind or my dps ATs; crit heals help A LOT against focus fire but what really kills me is knocks in general, i tend to be a little slow with mashing my heal key again. I guess this will be a major weakness that I hope to paliate for with ego storm and MR or maybe an active defense but I don't know which one would be nice (maybe the force active offense that bubbles you for 3k when advantaged). When you speak about enrage refreshers which ones do you have in mind ? I am quite keen on making enrage work now that you speak about it as the Mental disciple toggle will only counter the damage loss from sentinel and i'm really interested on getting some spike damage rolling to quickly down people who tend to focus me. Last question, as a healer and support dps, do you think it's necessary to get nttg and CC ? My CC carrier is actually really good damage (Telekinetic assault) and my main stacker of ego leech (unless i get another of the new power from tk that apprently can stack it better by tapping it vs. the maintain of TK Assault. I would guess CC is necessary in BASH but I have never found nttg useful except for flyers...the disable is too short and people usually get away with TP. Overall I think i'll be starved for advantage points so i'm trying to squeeze out the less usefull stuff. Thanks for all the help, building this FF turns out to be an unexpectedly fun experience Cheers EDIT: was looking at TK Eruption and decided against it earlier for energy reasons but with sentinel it looks sexy...applies a 21% damage resist buff and a 24% ego dmg buff that last for 15 sec while knocking back foes. Since i use TK wave when people are usually already on me, i think it's more logical to swap those powers out. Any insight ? Otherwise I can use Havoc Stomp for knockback purposes and enrage stacking...don't know if that will be too effective though as the knockback probably won't be too big with a low str.
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Post by heiki on Aug 1, 2011 10:56:59 GMT -5
Ok so things changed a LOT now that i'm 26 and I've changed my build quite a bit since then so I'll keep updating this thread a bit like a journal so that if anyone is thinking of doing a TK/Healer char they may have some info.
Yes I had to ditch darkness as most of my damage buffs are +Ego damage and powers out of framework are quite low in damage since i've got - 20% damage nerf from sentinel.
However I thought I'd take advantage of Sentinel's strengths (energy generation) so I came up with something that imo wouldn't even work outside of sentinel.
Single target damage is, I think (no idea how I compare against other hybrids) quite good with Telekinetic Assault as I'm getting around 600 crits at the end of the maintain (ticks every 0.5 sec).
AOE damage is excellent with Telekinetic Eruption (around 1500 high crit) if you feel like punting people or Ego Storm + Primal Sigils to melt people very quickly (even more if you TK Assault instead of healing).
Crowd control....well I have ego storm and Void shift which stuns if I lunge from 20 ft away so I can usually use it to mitigate damage coming towards me or towards my teammates.
Survivability: I feel like I'm survivable enough for the task i'm planning on doing (support dps/support heal or full heal). However, since I don't have Mindful Reinforcement yet, it all comes down to buffing with TK Eruption damage resistance buff, tapping TK shield for damage resistance buff and heal through the damage...which Empathic healing does very well (last ticks can crit for 1.2k as of now). Of course I fold to DW users if ego storm is on cooldown but I guess that's the same for a lot of people. What usually kills me is people that knockback, a good ol' focus or very very large spike (DW or force cascade). I'm planning on taking Masterful dodge to help with that.
Buffs: AoPM works well, my crit is around 30%, will go up to 40% with 5 stacks of Ego leech (when Mental discipline will be fully advantaged) and 55% for TK Assault. Crit severity stands at 95% as of now, HP are in the 3.6k range (lvl 26) and energy is a non issue with sentinel, even without an energy return EXCEPT for when I use ego storm with Malevolent manifestation so I'll take Telepathic reverb to counter this. Otherwise it's a spamfest, I don't even have my energy builder on most of the time and very very rarely run out of energy even in pvp. Ego damage is buffed by Mental discipline and TK eruption (which i can use even without a target so i'm usually always buffed) for what will be (when fully advantage) a total of +45% ego damage.
Build performs very well when things crit so I'll continue gearing for Dex and Con in addition to the superstats.
Voila ! Took a lot of testing but I'm very pleased with my Freeform atm, team support is very good and it's very fun to play (for me at least, I think it basically suits my playstyle).
Thanks for reading !
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