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Post by supercollide on Jul 6, 2011 10:33:59 GMT -5
Yeah, I was used to all those different types of healing. This CO game I have to actually do a little fighting lol. With mind there there are a decent amount of CC type things to throw out. I'll grind my way to 32 and see what it has to offer. I think I also need to look at my toon in a different light as well and not so much of a dedicated healer. I might need to delve into some sort of offense/mitigation method. And I noticed with teams on CO, if you are on an SG team, then people tend to get scatterbrained and go crazy with just moving about the cabin at their own leisure. With another toon, I was running the burial cave with my devastator. I always stayed within reach of the healer. Some of the other didn't. They face planted alot, but I for one only died like 2 times on some crazy zombie mobs. I think I need to rethink my approach though...just a we bit. I'll look into that galeforce guide you recommended. Thanks. Well the guide would probably have bene better read by your teammates! We're on the same SG so hit me up next time you're on and I'll SK down with you, help you level and see if I can't give you a few hints on the way.
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Post by cp24eva on Jul 6, 2011 10:43:51 GMT -5
Dumb question here. Does DEX also increase the chance of a crit heal like it does on a crit damage?
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Post by supercollide on Jul 6, 2011 10:48:03 GMT -5
Dumb question here. Does DEX also increase the chance of a crit heal like it does on a crit damage? yup! [EDIT - I mean 'yes it does', not 'yes it's a dumb question'!]
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Post by cp24eva on Jul 6, 2011 10:52:01 GMT -5
interesting. so with that being said, do you think i could go SS PRE and END, with not so much emphasis on END and kinda work some of that into splitting between DEX and EGO? Might the amount of crits negate the need for me to build more CON with the hope of getting crits more often on my empathic heal? I think I really have to go back to the drawing board with this new info.
Like I might be able to just put END in my super stats and use gear for DEX and EGO. With some END on there somewhere. At lvl 28 I get a decent amount of END back with my ego sprites adv.
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Post by cp24eva on Jul 6, 2011 10:52:48 GMT -5
Dumb question here. Does DEX also increase the chance of a crit heal like it does on a crit damage? yup! [EDIT - I mean 'yes it does', not 'yes it's a dumb question'!] LOL no offense taken!
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Post by supercollide on Jul 7, 2011 3:28:04 GMT -5
Well after running Telios with you last night you were doing fine. One death and that was me because I was answering some urgent PM's.
DEX will also increase your dodge, adding more survivability there as well.
I'd try 3 basic gearing setups, one for super squishy healing, one for Dex and another for CON and see how you get on with them.
I'd also look at your device loadout, Blood Moon devices might be good for you like Nimbus of force (great shield) and if you are going dex then amazing grace might help and Hacked Orbital Cannon Codes is a attack that can help layer damage.
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Post by lunar on Jul 7, 2011 5:51:01 GMT -5
Well after running Telios with you last night you were doing fine. DEX will also increase your dodge, adding more survivability there as well. If only this was still true: > Oh, to add to the devices Coward lainment works great in pvp/pve as burst or to pull people into ego storm Archers memory can even take out tanks in 1 go combined with a hold: >
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Post by cp24eva on Jul 7, 2011 5:57:34 GMT -5
Last night I swapped out to some more DEX and EGO. Still hovering around the 120 area for presence, but endurance went down significantly. What I found out is this. Of course I get more crits. I'm at ovr 15 percent now, which I'd like to get higher. Even still seems like I crit alot more often on healing and defense. My crit severity is at about 54 percent I think. I plan on boosting these a bit of course and trying different gear sets. With that being said....I have to use my last few atari tokens and probably by another inventory slot. Some of my heal spikes were pretty good though....I think. I didnt have much time to run some missions last night, but tonight I might have more time.
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Post by cp24eva on Jul 7, 2011 5:59:44 GMT -5
Well after running Telios with you last night you were doing fine. DEX will also increase your dodge, adding more survivability there as well. If only this was still true: > Oh, to add to the devices Coward lainment works great in pvp/pve as burst or to pull people into ego storm Archers memory can even take out tanks in 1 go combined with a hold: > I'm not familiar with any of these devices you guys speak of. I kinda look at it like a person character isn't good enough so the devs game you devices to try and shore up some of those holes lol. Although I saw, some really cool devices. I'll have to look into the pricing on those though.
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Post by lunar on Jul 7, 2011 6:17:49 GMT -5
If only this was still true: > Oh, to add to the devices Coward lainment works great in pvp/pve as burst or to pull people into ego storm Archers memory can even take out tanks in 1 go combined with a hold: > I'm not familiar with any of these devices you guys speak of. I kinda look at it like a person character isn't good enough so the devs game you devices to try and shore up some of those holes lol. Although I saw, some really cool devices. I'll have to look into the pricing on those though. Don't overstack on ego and/or dex, without primal you might gimp your pre/superstats:) And well, Its what you said, I personaly use em for the holes, hence why i avoid using nimbus since I got MR, etc.
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Post by supercollide on Jul 7, 2011 6:47:05 GMT -5
I'm not familiar with any of these devices you guys speak of. I kinda look at it like a person character isn't good enough so the devs game you devices to try and shore up some of those holes lol. Although I saw, some really cool devices. I'll have to look into the pricing on those though. They are drops from Blood Moon heroes they go for about 200G in the Auction House so just farm the hero (kill them, grab drops, don't do crypt, swap instance to find one where hero is up, kill, rinse & repeat) and hopefully you'll get the device. Blood Moon should be on 16th with luck on your side you should be able to pick up 4 or so devices on a evenings play, as well as some reasonable Blue upgrades. DEX will also increase your dodge, adding more survivability there as well. If only this was still true: > Whoops - you got me - wrong game....
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Post by KenpoJuJitsu3 on Jul 7, 2011 9:42:40 GMT -5
DEX will also increase your dodge, adding more survivability there as well. DEX no longer has this effect...with the exception of the advantage on the power Parry that still scales Dodge with DEX.
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Post by squirrelloid on Jul 8, 2011 1:07:46 GMT -5
I have to agree with an earlier comment, the amount of aggro healing draws is ridiculous. I understand and appreciate that the healer has to get in close to the action. But when just starting to heal causes every mob to instantly retarget the Mind (who is a Sentinel with PRE superstatted!), that's just crazy. The aggro on healing needs to go down quite a bit to be sane.
I find Const as the third stat is pretty key because there are times you just need those extra hp to survive. Sometimes the tank just can't grab all teh aggro. Bosses are usually no problem, its the 'there's 20 guys incoming' situations where if you start to heal you're going to have at least 10 on you, and you're going to die if you don't have some extra hp - enough to give you time to drop ego storm, back up, and heal yourself (in some order).
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Post by cp24eva on Jul 8, 2011 5:40:12 GMT -5
I think someone said that the more PRE you have on a healer the less threat built up. Not sure if I heard that right, but....I dunno. I get my fair share of aggro. I've went a different route as far as my attribute points go. It's experimental right now, but I havent had a good test because I keep teaming with another great healer AKA Supercollide. lol. Not saying that I never want to team with him though. always a pleasure. But I started slotting less PRE and more DEX and EGO. I'm at 20 percent crit chance with a 58 percent severity. I notice my heal spikes more often now and even on offense I see more damage spikes. Beginning to wonder whats better. Seems like about every time I throw out Ego sprite in a group of 3 or 4 then at least one mob gets the crit damage ticks. And then taps on ego blast seem to get more crits as well so I'm killin' faster. But I dont have proven solid number to go by. Maybe someone else has ran this experiment? Maybe not?
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Post by supercollide on Jul 8, 2011 6:13:26 GMT -5
lol - I'll back off a bit (will need to anyway - got some missions to blitz myself).
Bottom line, if you feel happier with the performance just run with it. Like I said lvl32 changes your game anyway so you'll be re-thinking it all then anyway.
More PRE in Sentinel Role does reduce threat, but healing piles it on. A good dedicated tank keeping track of healer threat helps lots. Off-tanking yourself while healing (like i did on burial caves) draws threat like crazy but Ego Storm makes you a bit reckless like that!
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