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Post by Lantesh on May 31, 2011 16:04:20 GMT -5
Meh, as long as it doesn't go pay-to-win we should be fine. I've played fully F2P MMOs in the past (and still do) and get really tired of PAYFORPOWER. Aika comes to mind for me the most. You could buy disgustingly powerful gear upgrade items in the cash shop which would allow you to absolutely dominate other players. To the point where where people who used the cash shop were referred to as "Wallet Warriors." It was impossible to beat a cash shop user 1v1. I ended up leaving that game when I fought against a cash shop user who was 10 levels under me. He killed me in 2 hits, I couldn't even scratch him. Forget that mess lol. As long as CO doesn't go down that route, I'll be sticking around.
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Post by pax on May 31, 2011 17:32:51 GMT -5
Heck, here's a thought: what will that mean for forum rules and enforcement ...??
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Post by slitrobo on May 31, 2011 18:05:12 GMT -5
When will the transfer happen? I'll hold off on buying Atari points (or whatever they'll change it to) until they officially switch.
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Post by Lantesh on May 31, 2011 18:20:06 GMT -5
Heck, here's a thought: what will that mean for forum rules and enforcement ...?? Link to their forum rules: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=63291Granted I have no idea if anything is going change on the forums front, but that should at least give an idea of what we might be looking at.
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Post by Admin on May 31, 2011 18:54:32 GMT -5
Here is a post from someone who actually plays PW that I found insightful about the game itself and the company. Interesting. Since i currently play Forsaken World (PW's recent entry title into the western market) along side STO, ive got some experience with PW. In a nutshell, its a very solid MMO company. Out of the many China-based MMO companies, they are the only one that has really poured extensive resources into entering the western market. FW itself, while also available in China, was created with the western MMO gamer in mind, and with US based servers. I would say they are more internationally oriented now. They also have extremely good MMO sense. The company is experienced in every nuance of the standard MMO. Playing FW or Jade Dynasty will tell you that. They also have a heavy focus on community and their games have good customer support reputations. What does this mean? I think its uphill for STO from here on. If Cryptic's teams do right by themselves, PW will likely pour on the resources for the studio and stay hands off. If it doesnt, then, depending on the terms of ownership, PW will likely exert some direct control over the game...ending with the same happy result for us, though maybe not for Cryptic. Also, i think lifetime subs, c-store options, etc, will all be honored. This deal was obviously in the works for awhile now, including when the lifetime sale was on. PW itself doesnt have a reputation for irking its customers. The only downside i can find is, STO is setup to have the same kind of hybrid F2P model as CO, something that PW games dont have. PW games follow a primarily micro-transaction model. How much they are involved in deciding STO's future pricing model and what decisions they come to on it, i cant say if it would be favorable. Then again, CO's model is not likely to change, so i think the details will be left up to Cryptic. It would be better to start to think of PW as an international company than a china-based one, at least with regards to STO. That will be how they're going to treat STO, since Star Trek is not big in China (actually, non-existent) due to controls on foreign media like TV shows and movies. forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?p=3566980#post3566980Mind you its about STO, but I still think it gives some good info on the company.
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Post by pax on May 31, 2011 19:46:20 GMT -5
Heck, here's a thought: what will that mean for forum rules and enforcement ...?? Link to their forum rules: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=63291Granted I have no idea if anything is going change on the forums front, but that should at least give an idea of what we might be looking at. Hmm, not much chance of a reprieve, then. Aaaaand... my interest dwindles to zero, once more.
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Post by Lantesh on May 31, 2011 20:00:00 GMT -5
Here is a post from someone who actually plays PW that I found insightful about the game itself and the company. Interesting. Since i currently play Forsaken World (PW's recent entry title into the western market) along side STO, ive got some experience with PW. In a nutshell, its a very solid MMO company. Out of the many China-based MMO companies, they are the only one that has really poured extensive resources into entering the western market. FW itself, while also available in China, was created with the western MMO gamer in mind, and with US based servers. I would say they are more internationally oriented now. They also have extremely good MMO sense. The company is experienced in every nuance of the standard MMO. Playing FW or Jade Dynasty will tell you that. They also have a heavy focus on community and their games have good customer support reputations. What does this mean? I think its uphill for STO from here on. If Cryptic's teams do right by themselves, PW will likely pour on the resources for the studio and stay hands off. If it doesnt, then, depending on the terms of ownership, PW will likely exert some direct control over the game...ending with the same happy result for us, though maybe not for Cryptic. Also, i think lifetime subs, c-store options, etc, will all be honored. This deal was obviously in the works for awhile now, including when the lifetime sale was on. PW itself doesnt have a reputation for irking its customers. The only downside i can find is, STO is setup to have the same kind of hybrid F2P model as CO, something that PW games dont have. PW games follow a primarily micro-transaction model. How much they are involved in deciding STO's future pricing model and what decisions they come to on it, i cant say if it would be favorable. Then again, CO's model is not likely to change, so i think the details will be left up to Cryptic. It would be better to start to think of PW as an international company than a china-based one, at least with regards to STO. That will be how they're going to treat STO, since Star Trek is not big in China (actually, non-existent) due to controls on foreign media like TV shows and movies. forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?p=3566980#post3566980Mind you its about STO, but I still think it gives some good info on the company. Hmm interesting. Currently downloading Forsaken World to give it a shot. See for myself how their business model and games work. It's free after all so I have nothing to lose. Edit: Off to rocky start so far. Seems that there was a "Critical Error" in attempting to register my account and was routed to use their ticket system. However, it seems like their ticket system is only usable by registered accounts so I'm having to go through their email system. All is not lost though! It just seems like I'm going to be testing out their customer support before their games. Edit #2: So they sent me a nice email explaining that they were looking into my problem. About an hour later they fixed the problem and then went ahead and manually activated my account for me. They also gave me a very nice apology. Even though it's based on one incident, I have to give their customer support an A+. Very quick and professional.
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Post by chaosinact on Jun 1, 2011 1:38:24 GMT -5
I'm hearing really good things all over about their customer support actually. Could be a very good thing.
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Post by pax on Jun 1, 2011 14:04:37 GMT -5
Well.
For all of your sakes, at least, I hope that the pricing model of CO doesn't turn into "free to play / pay to win".
However, Forsaken World really, really does look like (in terms of mechanics, at least) it's a blatant rip-off of WoW. Even the "triple talen tree" thing I can see in their Talent Calculator, that just screams "World of Copycraft". And since I'm already playing WoW ... free or not, I don't need to waste my time with that.
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Now, if STO goes F2P the way CO did, that might be an interesting development ...
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Post by Magario on Jun 1, 2011 23:26:13 GMT -5
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Post by warmancer on Jun 1, 2011 23:54:31 GMT -5
My reactions to that little link.
Good: STO may be going be F2P in 6-8 months.
Bad: Because of Atari, The Neverwinter MMO will never see the light of day unless some sort of licensing deal is made.
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Post by dardove on Jun 2, 2011 19:24:40 GMT -5
Silly question, but what does that mean in relation to staff? The devs are Cryptic employees obviously, but the community team, are they Cryptic or Atari or both? How about the Q&A testers and stuff? I'm hoping that the community team belongs to Atari, they can keep those if/when they sell Cryptic Yes, while I like Tiyshen, it is high time we got a new community team so hopefully we will lose the lot (unless they can find a way to keep Tiyshen) and get some who actually care about the Champions Online Community.
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Post by AngelOfCaine on Jun 2, 2011 21:03:20 GMT -5
I'm hoping that the community team belongs to Atari, they can keep those if/when they sell Cryptic Yes, while I like Tiyshen, it is high time we got a new community team... I'd like it if we got a team that seemed (bear in mind this is MY opinion only) to care (other than Tyishen and Tumorboy)
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Post by calsetes on Jun 3, 2011 10:07:09 GMT -5
Yeah, those two seem like the only ones who actively do more than their job - in a good way, mind you. They're the guys that strike me as people who'd be employee of the month in my office, since not only do they do their jobs, they also go beyond to build a good rapport with the customer base. It's the difference between the guy who fixes your computer, and the guy who fixes your computer, then tells you how to fix it should it happen again and what to do to prevent that in the future.
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Post by alaskandraco on Jun 4, 2011 0:01:25 GMT -5
Yeah, those two seem like the only ones who actively do more than their job - in a good way, mind you. They're the guys that strike me as people who'd be employee of the month in my office, since not only do they do their jobs, they also go beyond to build a good rapport with the customer base. It's the difference between the guy who fixes your computer, and the guy who fixes your computer, then tells you how to fix it should it happen again and what to do to prevent that in the future. You mean the people that bring in word-of-mouth customers? Yeah. While those two guys are on here all the time, I wonder how many others read this stuff? There is more than a few days that I read it, but don't post.
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