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Post by dumbcollide on Nov 16, 2011 12:10:39 GMT -5
As I have informed many times, this game is basically not free to play, it's like a demo, free to download, but not 1 great feature, as I stated in another topic, Champions On line doesn't deserve the title "FREE FOR ALL", it's Champions On line and that's it, I know, many great games charge, DC Universe on line doesn't charge though, I'll have to admit that DC Universe is way, way, way, way, way, better than Champions On line, and Champions On line will certainly have to wait 300 million light years to reach the success of DC Universe On line, so, all great games charge, but this is overly charged, which is why I say, the developers are plain pigs. I could imagine the developers now:
"MAN, we must find a way to let those *censored*ing silvers upgrade to gold" said developer
"I got an idea, it is great, and brilliant, and bright, why don't we just make this game not free? we will get more money!" IDEA!
"BRILLIANT" said developer -------- My opinion, and don't get mad it.
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Post by stratosphere on Nov 16, 2011 16:34:27 GMT -5
the game is 100 percent free. I played for over 2 months before I felt I needed to spend any money. You can have a wonderful experience without ever spending a dime.
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Post by Admin on Nov 16, 2011 16:54:13 GMT -5
If you are not aware, Cryptic is a business. People work there, and those people have to get paid in order to provide for themselves and their families. If they gave you everything in the game for free they would not make any money and therefore not have a job.
As far as DCUO goes, you have to pay for things over there as well. If you are a free player you have to buy the "Fight for the Light" DLC pack, as well as all future DLC packs. On the other hand, all future mission content in Champs will be free for everyone.
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Post by dumbcollide on Nov 17, 2011 4:35:17 GMT -5
I don't know about you, but if I worked, I wouldn't work for the money, I would work for the fun. *thumbs up*, I know, you have to pay for things in DCUO, but comparing to the amount of payment I have to do in Champions Online, DCUO is cheaper.
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Post by dr490nbr347h on Nov 17, 2011 15:28:18 GMT -5
CO Is Probably the most non-restrictive "Free to Play" MMO out there.
The only thing we (as Silvers) Are missing out on is pretty much Freeform. Mostly everything else is Accessible to silvers. Jesus, You should be grateful that you are PLAYING the game in the first place, Let alone ask for more free stuff.
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Post by ixq on Nov 17, 2011 19:58:32 GMT -5
Besides the trollbaiting, it does seem to raise a in interesting point... how come DCUO is happily giving away most of the playing experience for free? Is it lack of confidence on their product? Or is it 'loss leader' mentality? That getting the videogame crowd get a taste of the DCU they'll be more prone to buy other DC branded products?
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Post by Admin on Nov 17, 2011 21:39:42 GMT -5
Besides the trollbaiting, it does seem to raise a in interesting point... how come DCUO is happily giving away most of the playing experience for free? Is it lack of confidence on their product? Or is it 'loss leader' mentality? That getting the videogame crowd get a taste of the DCU they'll be more prone to buy other DC branded products? To put it simply, because there isnt that much content yet. However the Green Lantern content pack as well as all future content packs will have to be bought by free players. So even though right now they are giving away most of their content for free(because there isnt much), a year from now there will actually be a significant amount of content you have to buy assuming several more DLCs have been released. And on the note, they just announced a new one.
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Post by Pion on Nov 18, 2011 13:46:45 GMT -5
I don't know about you, but if I worked, I wouldn't work for the money, I would work for the fun. *thumbs up*, I know, you have to pay for things in DCUO, but comparing to the amount of payment I have to do in Champions Online, DCUO is cheaper. And that's the American Dream and all, but unless you're rich or on wellfare you will need to work for the money. Regardless of what you do, you must get paid. Loving your job has nothing to do with being able to afford rent, mortgage, health insurance, or dinner. Cryptic loves working on Champions, I'm sure, but the electric company still wants to get paid for powering their servers, and their landlord still wants to get paid for letting them use his building. Anyway, aside from that, how much payment do you have to do in CO? Because many many many players play without paying a single cent, and the things that Cryptic are selling already have more counterparts in game for free. - Costume options - CO's free pieces far outweigh DCUO's entire selection of costume options, especially in the ability to color them.
- Character slots - DCUO gives you two I believe? CO gives you two, and then a third for the AT rotation program for you to try new builds weekly.
- Content Expansion - DCUO is smaller just to start, but in addition to that we have Resistance and Aftershock comic series, with Whiteout coming soon, all for free, and more to come periodically.
- Archetypes/Powersets/Whatever you want to call it - DCUO has 6 that are free, and 1 that's pay for. CO has 8 that are free; that's still one more for free than DCUO has total. And then CO still let's you try a paid for AT/Powerset for a week, every week, for free.
- Travel Powers - DCUO has 3. CO has 6.
- Losing All Your Information Over The Playstation Network - You got me there, DCUO gives you a complete lack of security for free, in addition to a complete loss of network connection.
I think there's some confusion between the terms "Gives more away for free," vs "Has less stuff actually worth paying for." So just to be clear, my question is - What, exactly, is the "payment [you] have to do in Champions Online" for, and how is it free/cheaper in DCUO?
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Post by somethingtoponder on Nov 23, 2011 10:54:36 GMT -5
- Costume options - CO's free pieces far outweigh DCUO's entire selection of costume options, especially in the ability to color them.
- Character slots - DCUO gives you two I believe? CO gives you two, and then a third for the AT rotation program for you to try new builds weekly.
- Content Expansion - DCUO is smaller just to start, but in addition to that we have Resistance and Aftershock comic series, with Whiteout coming soon, all for free, and more to come periodically.
- Archetypes/Powersets/Whatever you want to call it - DCUO has 6 that are free, and 1 that's pay for. CO has 8 that are free; that's still one more for free than DCUO has total. And then CO still let's you try a paid for AT/Powerset for a week, every week, for free.
- Travel Powers - DCUO has 3. CO has 6.
- Losing All Your Information Over The Playstation Network - You got me there, DCUO gives you a complete lack of security for free, in addition to a complete loss of network connection.
I think there's some confusion between the terms "Gives more away for free," vs "Has less stuff actually worth paying for." So just to be clear, my question is - What, exactly, is the "payment [you] have to do in Champions Online" for, and how is it free/cheaper in DCUO? DCUO releases non-DLC content, too. Just last week they released free content. Theres actually 12 free "frameworks" in DCUO. Each powerset contains 2 different "frameworks". 6 vs 3 travel powers is misleading. CO acrobatics is nothing more than a combination of superspeed and superjump. Teleport is just stealth flight. Jet pack is just an altered flight. There isn't an equivelent of CO superjump/acrobatics in DCUO, but there isn't really an equivelent of DCUO acrobatics in CO, either. The Green Lantern DLC gives another another powerset (equivelent to 2 "frameworks". Notice how I use the word framework and not AT), and some additional content that is roughly the size of a CO adventure pack. All for ~$10.
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Post by plinske on Nov 23, 2011 12:58:23 GMT -5
DCUO releases non-DLC content, too. Just last week they released free content. Theres actually 12 free "frameworks" in DCUO. Each powerset contains 2 different "frameworks". 6 vs 3 travel powers is misleading. CO acrobatics is nothing more than a combination of superspeed and superjump. Teleport is just stealth flight. Jet pack is just an altered flight. There isn't an equivelent of CO superjump/acrobatics in DCUO, but there isn't really an equivelent of DCUO acrobatics in CO, either. The Green Lantern DLC gives another another powerset (equivelent to 2 "frameworks". Notice how I use the word framework and not AT), and some additional content that is roughly the size of a CO adventure pack. All for ~$10. Excuse my ignorance but what free content them added? I have not noted anything I think the 6 travel powers which he mentions are the free ones. If you put the skin with refurbished, we will find a lot, a lot more. Also IMO I do not think each powerset can be considered 2; I do not collected additional skill points beyond the normal lvling and basically covered the whole set or at least grabbed the skills I wanted. The Green Lantern DLC I consider only a paid powerset added of a raid, hardly considering a CO Adventure Pack equivalent.
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Post by Brick on Nov 23, 2011 16:02:48 GMT -5
looking over the posts of "dumbcollide" (the ones NOT wiped by admins), I can only say that he is clearly nothing but a whiny troll.
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Post by calsetes on Nov 23, 2011 16:20:39 GMT -5
looking over the posts of "dumbcollide" (the ones NOT wiped by admins), I can only say that he is clearly nothing but a whiny troll. I'd chalk it up to something else, personally, judging from a few of his comments. Part of me wonders if he ever actually played it, to be honest.
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Post by Brick on Nov 23, 2011 17:28:05 GMT -5
looking over the posts of "dumbcollide" (the ones NOT wiped by admins), I can only say that he is clearly nothing but a whiny troll. I'd chalk it up to something else, personally, judging from a few of his comments. Part of me wonders if he ever actually played it, to be honest. Why not both? Trolling and misinformation go hand-in-glove.
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Post by Pion on Nov 24, 2011 19:15:03 GMT -5
DCUO releases non-DLC content, too. Just last week they released free content. Theres actually 12 free "frameworks" in DCUO. Each powerset contains 2 different "frameworks". 6 vs 3 travel powers is misleading. CO acrobatics is nothing more than a combination of superspeed and superjump. Teleport is just stealth flight. Jet pack is just an altered flight. There isn't an equivelent of CO superjump/acrobatics in DCUO, but there isn't really an equivelent of DCUO acrobatics in CO, either. The Green Lantern DLC gives another another powerset (equivelent to 2 "frameworks". Notice how I use the word framework and not AT), and some additional content that is roughly the size of a CO adventure pack. All for ~$10. But we're talking about CO making you spend more money than DCUO, having to buy new content goes against that. As for travel powers, saying accro is just speed and jump combined ignores the fact that it's still mechanically different than either. Same with rocket boots and jet pack flight, they perform differently. And even if they don't, it's also the equivalent of saying electricity projection and fire projection are the same thing, just a reskin. Or DCUO accro is just speed and jump with a temp flight. But fine. That's still speed jump flight and TP for free compared to speed accro and flight total. And TP is not stealth flight, there's no combat application - you can't maintain height/distance while attacking, and its disabled for 10 (12?) seconds. The only application is retreat, which flight is terrible for. If DCUO is adding free content, then fine, although I dont know what that might be, but even so, CO is still not charging for it, much less charging more, so that point is still moot. I'm curious how the powersets are doubled tho. My experience is limited but I only saw plant, mind, fire, ice, gadget, and I think elec. I'm unaware of them functioning differently somehow.
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Post by lunar on Nov 25, 2011 4:44:21 GMT -5
This f2p style is great tbh. The game i currenltly play, is free at well, but ''cash shoppers'' can have redicilously better stats (as in like, 80% more dps. ALL SKINS are paid skins, etc.
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