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Post by Rykage on Jan 4, 2012 14:59:27 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this is the right section, so feel free to move this wherever it belongs.
I had a few questions regarding the instances in this game and how well AT's perform solo.
1) Which AT would be efficient at clearing something like Resistance or Whiteout at Elite, solo? Could any of the free AT's do it (I would probably put my money on Behemoth)?
2) Would it be easier once I hit 40, and get access to all my skills? I tried Whiteout #5 on my Unleashed at 28, and even though I was on -Normal-. the last boss killed me twice, before I got the hang of it. Agreed, they were mostly due to errors on my part, but after Whiteout #4, which I did around level 20, the difficulty really spiked up.
3) Is there really any incentive to run these instances on Elite when I'm soloing? I read somewhere on the official forums that apart from a select few boss drops, the drop rate on everything else remains the same across all difficulties.
Thank you for taking the time to answer these newbie questions! (Normally, I'd experiment and try finding out myself, but seeing as the highest character I have is 28, I'd have to wait quite a while :x)
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Post by scorcherofthorns on Jan 4, 2012 17:00:45 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this is the right section, so feel free to move this wherever it belongs. I had a few questions regarding the instances in this game and how well AT's perform solo. 1) Which AT would be efficient at clearing something like Resistance or Whiteout at Elite, solo? Could any of the free AT's do it (I would probably put my money on Behemoth)? 2) Would it be easier once I hit 40, and get access to all my skills? I tried Whiteout #5 on my Unleashed at 28, and even though I was on -Normal-. the last boss killed me twice, before I got the hang of it. Agreed, they were mostly due to errors on my part, but after Whiteout #4, which I did around level 20, the difficulty really spiked up. 3) Is there really any incentive to run these instances on Elite when I'm soloing? I read somewhere on the official forums that apart from a select few boss drops, the drop rate on everything else remains the same across all difficulties. Thank you for taking the time to answer these newbie questions! (Normally, I'd experiment and try finding out myself, but seeing as the highest character I have is 28, I'd have to wait quite a while :x) Hey there mate. ATs are generally weak when going solo unless boosted with the right gear. So knowing that, I can tell you that havging the right upgrades is a must to maximise the effectiveness of your toon, to know how to do that check out the AT guides on this website. Then I will recommend aiding yourself with "Become Devices" I particually recommend the "Vampire Device" not so much for the attack capabilities of the Vampire but for the self healing skills it have. ATs that are in the "offensive roles" are easily killed, so you will innevitably have a harder time with those than the rest, these ATs roles are the "Avenger" and the "Brawler". They tend to be all about damage and rarely have any means to stay alive, so the principle with those is "kill them before they kill you". The problem with them is basically that they will find foes that are tough enough to withstand the damge dealt to them, and the Offensive AT likely won't be able to take the dmg the foe would retaliate with. That means a dead AT, certainly not a good thing. So for a starter toon I recommend something on an easier and more durable role, something like a tank, now think of a Glacier or a Behemoth, they will take their sweet time killing things but will survive more. You should be able to work adventure packs in elite with either of those 2 ATs. My first AT was an Inferno which is the squishiest there is, and it was a bit hard at first, but once I got the hang of it I started to handle it well, however it was when I developed my Behemoth that I started to kick butts in this game. Here is my list of the easiest to play ATs that would be very effective on elite APs, other gamers might disagre with me. Easiest: Behemoth, Glacier, Marksman which is not on the same role as the other two. Harder: Inferno, Blade, Soldier, Grimoire Some ATs from the store are very easy to play like the "Savage", and the "Inventor" While some other ATs also from the store are as hard as their free counter parts, these ATs are the "Devastator" and the "Tempest" And I'm yet to try the newer ATs like the "Dicisple", the "Master", and the "Fist", they are probably easy but I honestly don't know. Hope that helped and sorry for the writing, I get payed by the typo! Cheers!
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Post by ashen on Jan 4, 2012 19:48:42 GMT -5
Currently my only AT is a mind but I didnt have any difficulty doing Serpent's Lantern solo/elite.
Actually it was easier than on some of my Freeform builds.
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Post by Jaxton Dragoon on Jan 4, 2012 23:28:58 GMT -5
Marksman has been my best AT for soloing so far closely followed by Disciple, though admittedly I run most content at Hard with both of them.
Behemoth is a good sack of hit points and its only real issue for soloing some content is the lack of a heal. Marksman has the heal from Quarry which won't save you in a boss fight but it does help with trash mobs since its health on kill.
Really, the best advice IMO is what the game suggests. Try out the various Archetypes and see which ones fit you best.
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Rykage
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Post by Rykage on Jan 5, 2012 1:33:00 GMT -5
I only asked because I bought Resistance on my silver account, and since I have limited character slots, I wanted to make one character that could easily farm it for Dark Speed or farm Whiteout etc on Elite. My main is an Unleashed, and so far, it's been a cakewalk upto the last boss of Whiteout #5, who roflpwnd me twice. I'll try making a Behemoth or a Glacier and see how it does, although the lack of self heal on both of them might be an issue on Elite. Marksman has been my best AT for soloing so far closely followed by Disciple, though admittedly I run most content at Hard with both of them. Behemoth is a good sack of hit points and its only real issue for soloing some content is the lack of a heal. Marksman has the heal from Quarry which won't save you in a boss fight but it does help with trash mobs since its health on kill. Really, the best advice IMO is what the game suggests. Try out the various Archetypes and see which ones fit you best. I tried playing the Marksman, but I gave up before I hit 10. I found it too squishy for my liking, and in the initial levels, the equilibrium/energy management was so horrible, I kept running out of energy after 2 tap Sonic Arrows. I did read the Marksman guide, and it would seem that the Marksman shines at later levels, so I'll try making one again. Anyway, thanks for the advice everyone!
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Post by orintakoda on Jan 5, 2012 2:04:26 GMT -5
So far, a lot of my ATs have been doing quite well in solo elites, Behemoth, Grimoire and Cursed are my top three for SL and Resistance.
As for the Boss in WO 5, I'm sure he's destined to kill any solo runners...
My Soldier seems to be unstoppable in solos too... until She faces a boss with Invulnerable... then she's screwed...
For resistance farm, I usually send out my Grimoire out, because of her high Dex and Ego I gave her, she can handle damages and healing very well for herself, I haven't sent my Cursed to the Resistance farm yet, so I can't judge...
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Post by Rykage on Jan 5, 2012 2:15:54 GMT -5
That's interesting. From what I've read till now, it seems to be common opinion that Grimoires are really squishy and they neither excel at damage dealing, healing, nor at survival. Did you have to sacrifice your super stats to get high Dex and Ego? How good is the healing without Pre? And without Con, how squishy are you?
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Post by plinske on Jan 5, 2012 5:59:56 GMT -5
That's interesting. From what I've read till now, it seems to be common opinion that Grimoires are really squishy and they neither excel at damage dealing, healing, nor at survival. Did you have to sacrifice your super stats to get high Dex and Ego? How good is the healing without Pre? And without Con, how squishy are you? I think when it comes to pve, the Grimoire is one of the best precisely because it is well balanced. My main was a grim converted to FF after I became LT but was much better than my behemoth in performance, perhaps because it fits better with my playstyle. Remember that AoPM increases all your stats as well, and I have all my stats above 100 w/ Pre and Int between 280 and 310, so you should have room to play around with your others stats through gears ;D
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Post by secksegai on Jan 10, 2012 1:30:54 GMT -5
While my only grim is a mule, I do agree with plinske that the grimoire is very suited for pve.
I personally do the majority of my farming on an inferno, but I do have to make use of healing and become devices as necessary on elite.
My behemoth only sees use now for teamed functions, she simply kills to slowly for my liking.
Cursed/scourge while not technically free are similar to ATs like the inferno and tempest, but the con SS allows more focus on Con for added survivability.
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Post by scorcherofthorns on Jan 12, 2012 9:55:09 GMT -5
You just gotta get used to take your time finishing mobs with a Behemoth that's all, which is not that long I might observe, the Inferno would kill the mob in 50 secs, the Behemoth would take 70, not so bad when you take into consideration the amount of time the Inferno would have to spend running back to the fight from the death respawn area, yes they (Infernos) die that often, while his Behemoth counter part wouldn't have to do so often.
Behemoths can kill and they are very good at it too. Haymaker as well as many of its other skills are wonderful and they are also fun, so no complains on the Behemoth, I think this AT would be perfect for any type of work in any AP, that's just what I think.
I do not farm Dark Speed, I have never managed to farm things that have a chance of dropping in any MMO, my patience don't allow for that, in fact it's a bit of a mistery to me how people summit to that kinda of stuff, so I only farm sure things like XP and money in most of my MMOs and for that reason I wouldn't be able to advice on what would be the best AT for farming Dark Speed, yet I'm certain that super squishy ATs without become devices are simply a nerve breaker for any type of work. So if you happen to be some amazing gamer that manages to pull off the super difficult with ease (or at least brag of doing so) make sure you mention your superior gaming skill so that you don't give the wrong idea to the posters, especially the ones that are asking for advice.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2012 23:34:11 GMT -5
3) Is there really any incentive to run these instances on Elite when I'm soloing? I read somewhere on the official forums that apart from a select few boss drops, the drop rate on everything else remains the same across all difficulties. You get a bit more xp on kills, best combined with double xp weekends. A new toon of mine went from level 6 to 24 with the 4hrs boost I 'reserved' earlier.
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Post by tidezen on Feb 8, 2012 11:50:38 GMT -5
I just started playing this game, but I did solo Whiteout on my Mind, only on normal but I was level 15-16 at the time. I haven't tried all the ATs yet, but my Mind is really, really durable compared to the 5 others I've tried. Kills slower then my Grim, and much slower than my Unleashed, but the healing makes up for it. Grimoire is pretty dang good too though, since your sigils can take all the aggro and then I can just just spam aoe heals on them. I can't wait to get my int higher so the CD isn't so long on sigil.
Teleportation has saved my butt countless times; being able to break LoS and get a couple seconds of breathing room to heal is stellar.
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