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Post by visionstorm on Jul 1, 2011 13:23:49 GMT -5
Don't start it on the official forums. It'll be shot down in no time with only gold members to voice their opinion and silvers restricted to do so. I'm usually one of the "buy it if you want it" people. As long as they restricted the "give us more archetypes" spam? Why the heck not? They have input, too, I'd think at least the bug report forum would be a good idea, and they have as much say in the f2p forum and general gameplay forum as golds. They're playing the same game, right? Some things are a bit of a gimme. Some forum access and (ffs) 1 extra bag slot? Definitely a part of that. This^ ...plus silvers are (or at least can be) paying costumers too. There's the c-store, after all. I have no issue with silvers posting on the "official" forums, and they might have valid input as well. Also, the "us vs. them" mentality is kind of moot, since all it takes for a gold to be a silver is to not re-sub after they game time expires (as is currently the case for me now, though, I'm currently subscribed to STO). So ALL players (other than Lifetime accounts) are potential silver members Give one reason to weigh against the spammer and trollers that F2P brings that make several accounts just to flame. I have three words for you: Keystoneman Snakewildlife Sithkiller Do you want me to go on? You forgot about The_Last... always figured he'd be on top of any list like that There was also Passerby, who was trolling a "Well Done Cryptic" thread recently (and got banned soon after)... one of the top trollers now, and a lifetime member too
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Post by chat on Jul 1, 2011 13:34:56 GMT -5
Yeah, though, I notice Destra is testing stuff on this one also. Kinda strange I suppose I could dig out something more amusing to look at... Does this place have anything against Borat mankinis on donkeys? I have three words for you: Keystoneman Snakewildlife Sithkiller Do you want me to go on? No need to use profanity.
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Post by obfuscation on Jul 1, 2011 14:10:15 GMT -5
Cryptic has made a huge mistake in not allowing silvers access to the forums. Simply put, the lifeblood of any MMO is the community. Without a well established community in which customers interact, they will eventually get bored of the perpetual grind, and move on to another game. Cryptic should be doing whatever they can to promote the community. But instead they have chosen to stymie it.
In my experience, the player community has welcomed the silvers pretty well. But frankly, the vibe I get as a silver (despite being a paying customer who has bought archetypes, adventure packs, etc) is that Cryptic has no interest in my opinions. Honestly, I don't even go to the CO homepage anymore. I just go here and the Wiki. How does that sound like a good idea for a business that is reliant on community interest and continued spending?
Cryptic should have always allowed silvers access, more so now that we are subjected to Lowes commercials every few minutes.
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Post by SLoweCSL on Jul 1, 2011 15:01:35 GMT -5
Visionstorm makes a good point. Even though I am a Silver member, I have put a good bit of money into the C-Store in the form of points to purchase items such as bag slots and character slots.
Some months I spend more on points, dollar wise, than it would cost to be a gold member that month. I love the game but I don't want a re-occurring charge every month.
I like paying for what I want and would indeed use in the game.
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Post by scrizz on Jul 1, 2011 20:04:51 GMT -5
I think it's *censored* that i spend money on a game and can't post in the forum? That's complete *censored*. I am silver yet I've spent some good money on the game. I personally don't like subs. It's *censored* that I can't voice my opinion, but they still take my money all the same. k, feel better now. at least someone heard me. scrizz - We are sorry for the inconvenience, but only Gold Members with active subscriptions may post messages in this forum. If you are interested in becoming a Gold Member, please go here. Mother *censored*ers
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Post by lonegoat on Jul 2, 2011 5:11:12 GMT -5
believe me people you are hardly missing much in the Gold forums. I'm a gold sub and heck I'm posting here. Why? Getting tired of the elitist attitudes, inside jokes only a hand full of vets get, and the over all lack of actual communication. As an example, and a recent one. Anyone that says the Dev's dropped the ball with the latest patch, will have people flaming you for qqing that the game isn't perfect. I used to really think that CO had an awesome community, yet the deeper you look the more you see the same old problems.
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Post by terror on Jul 2, 2011 6:35:44 GMT -5
They could allow silvers in if the account has been active for x amount of time or some other factor like if you bought something from the c-store. Or both.
Tbh i have met more gold players that feel entitled to stuff in the short amount of time i have been playing this game.
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Post by ashken on Jul 2, 2011 8:39:30 GMT -5
Maybe do like the zone chats then. After x amount of time played you get access to the forums.
But to be fair, I think Cryptic is just waiting for SW to finalize the purchase and getting moved to their forum platform.
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Post by lonegoat on Jul 2, 2011 8:42:01 GMT -5
They could allow silvers in if the account has been active for x amount of time or some other factor like if you bought something from the c-store. Or both. Tbh i have met more gold players that feel entitled to stuff in the short amount of time i have been playing this game. TBH paying a monthly sub fee tends to do that to players >.>
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Post by AngelOfCaine on Jul 2, 2011 13:15:10 GMT -5
...I used to really think that CO had an awesome community, yet the deeper you look the more you see the same old problems. When a community member is expected to participate, and then slapped for saying something that someone else gets away with CONSTANTLY, we get gunshy about posting anything We had a real good connected family on the CO forums until the April 15th, 2011 forum disaster
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Post by Stately Buff-Cookie on Jul 2, 2011 14:08:02 GMT -5
Dare I ask what happened on April 15?
Anyway, what really makes no forum access for silvers scummy is.. well a few things really. It's actually VERY easy to spend more than a monthly sub in the store on a consistent basis. Everything in the C-Store is, quite frankly, terribly overpriced. Which I guess I'm not shocked at. Subs were, apparently, not enough to save a dead game. They needed a bigger money hog than subs could provide. On that note, Cryptic doesn't remember that they had to go to this model to keep the game afloat. The silvers are valuable customers. Not scum. Not just potential customers. Not on some permanent free trial. Not leeches.
Silvers are already customers. Silvers already pay to play on any character they had to place on a slot they bought for more room. On any AT that you have to pay to gain access to. Silvers already pay to play with many diverse costume sets. Silvers pay to play the adventure packs.
But let them keep the forum closed. It's a clearly placed sign about what kind of company Cryptic really is. Strong arming Cryptic into giving silvers access would only let people flock and say, "Look! Look you terrible people! Cryptic really is good to you!" without considering they had to be forced into the decision anyway. At least this way the record is kept clear.
If Cryptic were to do silvers a favor, I'd prefer it to be more substantial than forum access. That is nothing. It is the absolute smallest bone they could throw, and it wouldn't cost them a dime.
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Post by melkathi on Jul 2, 2011 16:10:39 GMT -5
Dare I ask what happened on April 15? You can ask, but we promised not to talk about it here, so we wont be able to answer Send Angel or Visionstorm or Pion a PM and have them explain it if you want But let them keep the forum closed. I believe they should shut down the forum completly anyway
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Post by Stately Buff-Cookie on Jul 2, 2011 16:26:21 GMT -5
Oh boy.
Do I choose blissful ignorance?
Or morbid curiosity?
Oh who am I kidding. I'm too lazy to send a PM.
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Post by melkathi on Jul 2, 2011 22:20:24 GMT -5
How about curiose bliss or ignorable morbidity? (and yes I know that's not a word)
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Post by Talahar on Jul 2, 2011 22:32:05 GMT -5
What I'm really pissed off about is that Silvers can't even read the test server forum. I don't even want to get on the test server, and therefor I don't need to post there, but not even be allowed to read it? I'd really like to hear a good reason for that.
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