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Post by ashken on May 22, 2011 14:43:13 GMT -5
I just dinged 40 on my fire elemental and was hoping to get some help for a build that is good solo and in groups. I got a variant of Pulsewave's fire build: Build by championBuilder 0.4.1Download this Build here.: Level 40 ChampionSuperstats:Level 6: Super RecoveryLevel 13: Super EndurancePowers:Level 1: Throw FireLevel 1: Thermal ReverberationLevel 6: Fiery Form -- Rank 3, Rank 2Level 6: Fire Flight -- Rank 3, Rank 2Level 8: Conflagration -- Accelerated Metabolism, Rank 3, Rank 2Level 11: Heat Wave -- Engulfing FlamesLevel 14: Flashfire -- Rank 3, Rank 2Level 17: Bountiful Chi Resurgence -- Rank 3, Rank 2Level 20: Pyre -- Rank 2, Rank 3Level 23: Field SurgeLevel 26: Force Shield -- Force SheathLevel 29: Mindful Reinforcement -- Rank 3, Rank 2Level 32: ImmolationLevel 35: Defile -- Plague Bearer, Rank 2Level 35: TeleportLevel 38: Smoke Grenade -- Escape ArtistTalents:Level 1: The InfernoLevel 6: ShooterLevel 9: FinesseLevel 12: Lasting ImpressionLevel 15: Amazing StaminaLevel 18: Sniper TrainingLevel 21: Survival TrainingAnd was wondering what should be changed to maximize the build.
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Post by ashken on May 22, 2011 15:08:02 GMT -5
Just replaced Chi Resurgence with Conviction R2 + Reverence and danger room on hard with size 5 group is possible. If the groups are very hard put up Sheath, Conviction and MR and teleport in. Drop a flashfire and a fully charged pyre and smokebomb the suckers. The Conflagration and MR Conviction. Any better combination? Something better than Conviction?
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Post by materia on May 22, 2011 21:42:15 GMT -5
Have you considered PRE as one of your super stats? Thermal reverb scales off it, as well as mindful reinforcement. Plus, assuming you are avenger stance, it will lower your threat when teamed. Also, you are missing fireball with unstable accelerant. Is this intentional? As a second opinion, you can look at this thread: forums.champions-online.com/showthread.php?p=1779636
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Post by ashken on May 23, 2011 4:31:04 GMT -5
It looks like Pre would work, I'm just wondering what to drop instead: Rec or End. Pyre can be switch with fireball, I'm just wondering how good UA really is.
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Post by ashken on May 23, 2011 12:38:17 GMT -5
How about this, its a mixed healer / dps build: Build by championBuilder 0.4.1Download this Build here.: Level 40 ChampionSuperstats:Level 6: Super RecoveryLevel 13: Super PresencePowers:Level 1: Throw FireLevel 1: Thermal ReverberationLevel 6: Fiery Form -- Rank 3, Rank 2Level 6: Fire Flight -- Rank 3, Rank 2Level 8: Conflagration -- Accelerated Metabolism, Rank 3, Rank 2Level 11: Heat Wave -- Engulfing FlamesLevel 14: Flashfire -- Rank 3, Rank 2Level 17: Conviction -- Reverence, Rank 2Level 20: Fireball -- Unstable AccelerantLevel 23: Aura Of Radiant ProtectionLevel 26: Force Shield -- Force SheathLevel 29: Mindful Reinforcement -- Rank 2, Revitalizing BoostLevel 32: Empathic Healing -- Rank 2, Rank 3Level 35: Resurrection SerumLevel 35: TeleportLevel 38: Defile -- Rank 2, Plague BearerTalents:Level 1: The GrimoireLevel 6: Healthy MindLevel 9: Shrug It OffLevel 12: Boundless ReservesLevel 15: Quick RecoveryLevel 18: Command TrainingLevel 21: Survival Training
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Post by Prince Mordred on May 23, 2011 13:06:37 GMT -5
... Drop a flashfire and a fully charged pyre and smokebomb the suckers.... I just posted a question on Sneak - I've tried smoke bombs (martial arts), but no joy, but haven't tried smoke grenades (munitions). Don't mean to hijack a thread, but it sounds like this is working well for you - any further feedback (maybe on the other thread or PM) would be appreciated! Your Fire builds are very interesting to me - some powers I wouldn't have expected (Chi, Defile, Serum). I'll be spending some time looking at this! Rock on!
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Post by materia on May 23, 2011 13:25:57 GMT -5
It looks like Pre would work, I'm just wondering what to drop instead: Rec or End. Pyre can be switch with fireball, I'm just wondering how good UA really is. Personally, I would keep End. I have lvl 40 inferno, and here is my take. First of all, for inferno, SS are Rec and End. For the henchmen/villain, I can just conflag them off the bat. But for the supers and up, I still have to energy build to maximum energy before starting my attack. And this is despite having Rec superstatted. Without building up, I run out of energy with my first maintain of conflag. I have my PRE geared up to 126. With this amount of PRE, I can use 2 rounds of fully maintained conflag before needing a recharge. I can start my 3rd round, but my energy quickly depletes because the clinging flames affect usually wears off by then, as does flashfire and unstable accel. As for the UA, I don't have any hard numbers, but it is a noticeable difference to me when I use it.
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Post by ashken on May 28, 2011 10:16:52 GMT -5
New updated: Build by championBuilder 0.4.1Download this Build here.: Level 40 ChampionSuperstats:Level 6: Super EnduranceLevel 13: Super PresencePowers:Level 1: Throw FireLevel 1: Thermal ReverberationLevel 6: Fiery Form -- Rank 3, Rank 2Level 6: Fire Flight -- Rank 3, Rank 2Level 8: Conflagration -- Accelerated Metabolism, Rank 3, Rank 2Level 11: Force Shield -- Force SheathLevel 14: Flashfire -- Rank 3, Rank 2Level 17: Conviction -- Rank 3, Rank 2Level 20: Fireball -- Unstable AccelerantLevel 23: Aura Of Radiant ProtectionLevel 26: Arcane Vitality -- Rank 2, Rank 3Level 29: Mindful Reinforcement -- Revitalizing Boost, Rank 2Level 32: Empathic Healing -- Rank 3, Rank 2Level 35: Resurrection SerumLevel 35: TeleportLevel 38: Defile -- Plague BearerTalents:Level 1: The GrimoireLevel 6: Healthy MindLevel 9: Shrug It OffLevel 12: Boundless ReservesLevel 15: Quick RecoveryLevel 18: Command TrainingLevel 21: Survival Training
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Post by KenpoJuJitsu3 on May 28, 2011 15:54:00 GMT -5
New updated: Build by championBuilder 0.4.1Download this Build here.: Level 40 ChampionSuperstats:Level 6: Super EnduranceLevel 13: Super PresencePowers:Level 1: Throw FireLevel 1: Thermal ReverberationLevel 6: Fiery Form -- Rank 3, Rank 2Level 6: Fire Flight -- Rank 3, Rank 2Level 8: Conflagration -- Accelerated Metabolism, Rank 3, Rank 2Level 11: Force Shield -- Force SheathLevel 14: Flashfire -- Rank 3, Rank 2Level 17: Conviction -- Rank 3, Rank 2Level 20: Fireball -- Unstable AccelerantLevel 23: Aura Of Radiant ProtectionLevel 26: Arcane Vitality -- Rank 2, Rank 3Level 29: Mindful Reinforcement -- Revitalizing Boost, Rank 2Level 32: Empathic Healing -- Rank 3, Rank 2Level 35: Resurrection SerumLevel 35: TeleportLevel 38: Defile -- Plague BearerTalents:Level 1: The GrimoireLevel 6: Healthy MindLevel 9: Shrug It OffLevel 12: Boundless ReservesLevel 15: Quick RecoveryLevel 18: Command TrainingLevel 21: Survival TrainingSince you're going Super PRE w/ thermal reverb AND you have a passive to switch to for defense I'd ditch force shield w/ sheathe. You won't need the defense or the energy since you have bubbles, flashfire and AoRP for when you build switch. (and a slew of heals). I'd stick Fire Snake in there for more damage. Also, you may find Arcane Vitality and Empathic Healing to be redundant...especially since you can bubble then heal.
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Post by ashken on May 29, 2011 3:12:47 GMT -5
I was thinking the shield would be necessary for running fx. Restsitance where the bot have the huge aoe damage. I've tinkered a bit with the build, removed Conviction (since I couldn't fit in Iniquity) and put in Firesnake instead, swapped Forceshield for TK shield and removed Defile for Sigils of radiant sanctuary. Build by championBuilder 0.4.1Download this Build here.: Level 40 ChampionSuperstats:Level 6: Super EnduranceLevel 13: Super PresencePowers:Level 1: Throw FireLevel 1: Thermal ReverberationLevel 6: Fiery Form -- Rank 3, Rank 2Level 6: Fire Flight -- Rank 3, Rank 2Level 8: Conflagration -- Accelerated Metabolism, Rank 3, Rank 2Level 11: Heat Wave -- Engulfing FlamesLevel 14: FlashfireLevel 17: Telekinetic Shield -- Telekinetic ReinforcementLevel 20: Fireball -- Unstable AccelerantLevel 23: Aura Of Radiant Protection -- Rank 3, Rank 2Level 26: Fire Snake -- Rank 2, Trail BlazerLevel 29: Mindful Reinforcement -- Revitalizing Boost, Rank 2Level 32: Empathic Healing -- Rank 3, Rank 2Level 35: RedemptionLevel 35: TeleportLevel 38: Sigils Of Radiant Sanctuary -- Rank 2, Rank 3Talents:Level 1: The GrimoireLevel 6: Healthy MindLevel 9: Shrug It OffLevel 12: Boundless ReservesLevel 15: Quick RecoveryLevel 18: Command TrainingLevel 21: Survival Training
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Post by ashken on May 29, 2011 7:00:00 GMT -5
Once more: Build by championBuilder 0.4.1Download this Build here.: Level 40 ChampionSuperstats:Level 6: Super EnduranceLevel 13: Super PresencePowers:Level 1: Throw FireLevel 1: Fiery Form -- Rank 2, Rank 3Level 6: Fireball -- Unstable AccelerantLevel 6: Fire Flight -- Rank 2, Rank 3Level 8: Conflagration -- Rank 2, Rank 3Level 11: Thermal ReverberationLevel 14: FlashfireLevel 17: RedemptionLevel 20: Empathic Healing -- Rank 2, Rank 3Level 23: Protection Field -- Rank 2, Rank 3Level 26: Mindful Reinforcement -- Rank 2, Revitalizing BoostLevel 29: Aura Of Radiant Protection -- Rank 2, Rank 3Level 32: Fire Snake -- Rank 2, Trail BlazerLevel 35: Telekinetic Shield -- Telekinetic ReinforcementLevel 35: TeleportTalents:Level 1: The GrimoireLevel 6: Healthy MindLevel 9: Shrug It OffLevel 12: Boundless ReservesLevel 15: Quick RecoveryLevel 18: Command TrainingLevel 21: Survival Training
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Post by KenpoJuJitsu3 on May 31, 2011 9:26:05 GMT -5
If you're dead set on having a shield w/ a linger do not grab TK Shield. The benefits of Force Shield or Ebon Void are too good to pass up for TK shield's linger. If TK shield is for theme, ignore me
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Post by ashken on May 31, 2011 10:57:03 GMT -5
The linger effect was mostly for extra shielding, force shield /w sheath is nice too though
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Post by ashken on May 31, 2011 12:45:03 GMT -5
Build by championBuilder 0.4.1Download this Build here.: Level 40 ChampionSuperstats:Level 6: Super EnduranceLevel 13: Super PresencePowers:Level 1: Throw FireLevel 1: Fiery Form -- Rank 3, Rank 2Level 6: Fireball -- Unstable AccelerantLevel 6: Fire Flight -- Rank 3, Rank 2Level 8: Conflagration -- Rank 3, Rank 2, Accelerated MetabolismLevel 11: Thermal ReverberationLevel 14: FlashfireLevel 17: RedemptionLevel 20: Empathic Healing -- Rank 3, Rank 2Level 23: Protection Field -- Rank 3, Rank 2Level 26: Conviction -- Rank 2Level 29: Aura Of Radiant Protection -- Rank 3, Rank 2Level 32: Force Shield -- Force SheathLevel 35: Fire Snake -- Trail Blazer, Rank 2Level 35: TeleportLevel 38: Iniquity -- Rank 2, Rank 3Talents:Level 1: The GrimoireLevel 6: Healthy MindLevel 9: Shrug It OffLevel 12: Boundless ReservesLevel 15: Quick RecoveryLevel 18: Command TrainingLevel 21: Survival Training
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Post by GammaBreaker on Jun 1, 2011 16:04:25 GMT -5
Hm. This is almost the same as the fire build I was working on earlier today for my first fire character (shelved since F2P, until now). Very similar, indeed. :]
If you decide to take Fireball, it has not only the awesome UA debuff, but it also actually hits pretty darned hard. Its damage is on par with Defile these days, I think. I took my fireball to Rank 2, and have no regrets. Gives me a spammable high damage power to use between Heatwaves, or when Conflag doesn't suit the situation.
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